US President Barack Obama speaks during a press conference at the White House in Washington, DC.; Credit: Jim Watson/AFP/Getty Images
KPCC's AirTalk listeners called in to discuss President Obama's remarks following last week's shootings. You can watch the video of his statement here, and let us know your thoughts in the comments.
Highlights from the discussion
Rosalyn in Bellflower: I really feel whether President Obama politically positioned this eulogy or not, that [nonetheless] there was a real veracity in what he had to say. He balanced the speech nicely.
For me, who is grieving as an African-American woman about all these things that are happening one time after another, it really helped me to kind of soothe my wounds and put me forward through my own grieving process. So I think what he did was outstanding. We really need to focus on what was the truth about what he said and run with that.
Larry Mantle: Share a little bit emotionally about what you were feeling as you were listening. How affected were you?
Rosalyn in Bellflower: I’ve been grieved. I’ve been grieved because I do understand both sides, and I do believe we are [all] human beings. I’m grieved for the Dallas situation with the police officers. I’m grieved that young men can’t come home without necessarily being roughhoused by the police. I have African-American boys. Every time they would walk out the door on a Saturday evening to go out and go have fun, I’m praying that they come back in one piece. So I understand about the systemic racism and things that are in our institutions.
One thing that really jumped out for me personally is when Obama talked about — I’m a teacher so I understand what our citizens sometimes demand of us — how police officers are looked at to be be parents, psychologists, that they need to be their mom or dad, their teachers. That is way too much to put on a police officer. So, the whole thing that really stood out for me is increasing self-responsibility for us also with us as parents, us as citizens, so we wouldn’t have to put that kind of pressure on police officers and teachers and people of that nature.
Larry Mantle: What did you think of the president’s speech?
David from Valencia: I thought it was one of the most moving and courageous speeches I have ever heard. Other than the content of it I really liked the tone that he used. It was just so incredibly down to earth. It was as if maybe your own dad or one of your high school teachers or junior high school teachers who really cared about you was sitting down and telling you things that you need to know.
I’m a white guy. I’m a lawyer. But I’m an avid Black Lives Matter advocate.
Boy, President Obama brought a lot of different new perspectives into my mind. Honestly, I think just in that half an hour he changed the way I’ve been approaching all this with my own sons, on social media and everything.
Rodney in Southwest LA: I’m a police officer in Los Angeles, and I’ve been one for about 24 years now. I’m an African-American. So, this past week, has been one of the roughest weeks that I’ve had in my career. I was trying to deal with this, and I was so frustrated. I was angry. I was looking at it from the perspective of a police officer I was looking at it from the perspective of an African-American kid who grew up in LA who at times was sometimes afraid to go outside, not because of crime but because of the police, and I was just lost.
By me hearing this speech — his eulogy — it brought me to a place, I’m mean I’m crying as I am right now, to where now I can see that there is a part of me in both of these that I can bring together and better this place. My whole goal as a police officer has been to be fair to people and treat people that I wasn’t treated a lot of times when I dealt with the police.
But as I knew, 90 percent of the police were good, it was that 10 percent that was making it seem like the 90 percent was the problem.
His eulogy was on point. It was relevant. As your last caller said, it was like your father, your dad, your uncle, your brother, or somebody who really cared about you was trying to show you a way to deal with something that could go just go awry if it wasn’t constructed in a very very heartfelt way.
Larry Mantle: Rodney, you are so eloquent. As you were describing as what you were going through as both an African-American man and a police officer, you must feel so torn apart -- as you were describing.
What is the way you see you can bring this together and do what you’re describing -- use these dual positions -- and bring people together?
Rodney in Southwest LA: It’s gonna take courage on both sides. The uniqueness of me I guess — and it’s probably the same way for other folks who have grown up with an experience similar to mine [and] are working in the same field as mine — is that I understand both sides of this. I have a very very clear understanding of both sides, and I know where there is common ground.
But if there are people who just refuse to want to come together, who refuse to want to try and work [toward] a common ground solution and move forward from there, we’ll always have that head clash. But, at that common ground, at that point of listening, at that point of wanting to understand someone but then also being able to be heard and someone showing empathy, it will allow us to move from this. It just has to be a collective thing.
But I'm going to do my part. I’m not gonna give up. I’m gonna fight this until I can’t fight it anymore. I just have to do it. I have no choice.
Larry Mantle: Rodney, I appreciate it so much. Thank you for being with us.
Have you worked at any of the Southern California protests — either Black Lives Matter of any other similar organizations?
Rodney in Southwest LA: Yes I have. I have been assigned to those protests on several occasions.
Larry Mantle: Have you been confronted by protesters? Or has it generally been peaceful?
Rodney in Southwest LA:: I’ve had peaceful ones for the most part, but I have been confronted by angry and frustrated people.
Even on one occasion I was able to have a dialog with one of them. I don’t know if that showed a different perspective of a police officer for that particular person, but I was darn sure trying. I believe he listened to what I had to say, and I hope that it helped him to understand a little bit. You know like we say — ‘Black Lives Matter,’ ‘Blue Lives Matter’ — lives matter across the board.
But as we know, there are divisions in society that have been around long before I got here and will probably be around long after I’m gone. We can still knock down some walls and find some common ground.
Mark in Whittier: To me, it was a very political speech; it was a 7-iron down the middle. He knew he was in front of a hostile crowd that he created. A town and a state that did not vote for him. And he knew he couldn’t pander to the Black Lives Matter movement as he has in the past. He had to have some sort of reconciliation type speech with police officers of that city.
I just viewed it as very very political and something that he was forced to do.
Larry Mantle: So you felt it was inauthentic what he said?
Mark in Whittier: Well, if you look at his history in supporting Black Lives Matter, or whenever there is a shooting in America he always rushes to the victim — whether it’s in Ferguson or Cleveland.
Larry Mantle: Let me just interrupt, though. He also rushed with the tragedy in Dallas to express solidarity with the police department there. So it’s not just when it’s an African-American person who was shot by police.
Mark in Whittier: Let’s compare the shooting in Dallas to Dylann Roof in South Carolina.
The Black Lives Matter movement has a higher body count than Dylann Roof. When Dylann Roof shot all those people in the church, all of a sudden the nation — led by Obama — went crazy. You were banning the Confederate Flag, you were banning “Dukes of Hazzard,” every Southern man with a gun was a racist. “The NRA was to blame.”
All of a sudden, this happens in Dallas, and he’s not condemning Black Lives Matter or groups like that like he would an individual like Dylann Roof. It doesn’t serve his political purpose; it doesn’t serve his agenda.
This was, to me, a very forced speech that he did not want to give.